The Bible shows us God using natural forces to affect miracles. He brought a mighty east wind to part the Red Sea. He used columns of fire and cloud to guide the Israelites. Jesus spat into his hands, added dirt and placed over a man’s eyes to give him sight. Jesus calmed the seas and fed five thousand from five loaves and two fishes. We see countless examples of God using natural forces in tandem with his own power.
We see birds fly. Without this, would we even imagine the possibility of flight? Powered flight uses different laws than gravity, but without the laws of gravity and motion, flight would be impossible. Air pressure is necessary for flight. Gravity is what keeps the atmosphere intact. So the law of gravity and the laws of aerodynamics complement each other.
Which brings us to the concept of “law”. Some say the miracles of God are a picture of God setting-aside his laws to affect the miracle. I was actually taught this by pastors at a young age. Only later did someone, not a pastor but a scientist, point out a significant implication of this notion:
Luk 16:17 “And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the law to fail.”
God’s laws don’t fail. He doesn’t set aside, suspend or bend his laws. Why would he have to? If he’s put laws in place for birds to fly, why wouldn’t he put laws in place to affect his miracles? He knows he’ll need them to inform the prophets. We can presume God has laws we may never discover this side of heaven, but those laws are just as important as any other. This means the moral law, judicial law, physical law, scientific law etc., all dovetail to a common Source, and that Source does not change. That Source sees in real-time, all the places he would need a given law, so has put them in place for his own use.
So when Jesus was born of a virgin, calmed the seas, healed the blind, rose from the dead or other miracles, he was invoking laws only he has access to, not suspending laws we already know about. This is where some cults jump-the-rails and claim we can access the same laws Jesus did. That Jesus was merely an advanced scientist, and if we study science long enough, we’ll be able to do the same things. What nonsense. Jesus had access to the laws because he’s God, not because the laws are readily available or accessible to common man.
All this in mind, that God uses laws of his making, many physical laws are yet undiscovered, but the laws we see in play (gravity, aerodynamics, etc) give us confidence to experiment with their possibilities.
Has God shown us anything about time travel?
Luk 9:29-31 “As He prayed, the appearance of His face was altered, and His robe became white and glistening. And behold, two men talked with Him, who were Moses and Elijah…”
Clearly Elijah and Moses aren’t being called from the grave or the spirit world. They are interacting with Jesus in real-time, but neither of them lived in the same time frame as each other, nor the same time as Jesus.
It’s not too much of a stretch to say that during their respective prayer times, when they were in the spirit. Jesus folded space and time to bring them to him. He physically interacted with them. What laws did Jesus invoke to make this happen? We surely don’t have access to them, but there’s no doubt as to their existence.
Gen 5:24 “And Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him.”
Here we have Enoch, son of Jared in the pre-Flood world, the seventh from Adam, being “taken” by the Lord. The context is quite clear. Enoch was “taken” by he Lord in terms of being whisked-away, removed, etc. Where did Enoch go?
John 3:13 “No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.”
Here Jesus plainly asserts no man has ascended to heaven. At the time Jesus is speaking, there are no humans in heaven. Think about that. For the four thousand years preceding Jesus, all the people who died didn’t go to heaven. Where did they go?
2Ki 2:11 “Then it happened, as they continued on and talked, that suddenly a chariot of fire appeared with horses of fire, and separated the two of them; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.”
Important note – the word “heaven” here is not God’s heaven but the “sky”. Two different Hebrew words shamayim for the sky, and ouranos for God’s heaven. The “sky” is used here. Same question we would have – is where did Elijah go?
Luk 16:22 “So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried.”
In this passage, Jesus refers to “Abraham’s bosom” as a real place, clearly a place of rest for believing souls. (More on this in a later essay). Jesus had taught extensively on “heaven”, including that he has many mansions there. Why did he specifically call-out Abraham’s bosom? Because when an Old Testament believer died, they could not go to heaven (John 3:13 above) because they had not yet been redeemed by Christ. They would remain in Abraham’s bosom until Christ came for them.
2Co 5:6,8 “So we are always confident, knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord… We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord.”
Clearly today, when a believer dies, one is instantly in God’s presence, in heaven. This was not so prior to Christ’s redemption.
But how can we be “instantly” in God’s presence? Does God have heavenly laws allowing the folding of space to affect instant arrival? We can’t understand, measure or gain access to it, but we can be sure it exists.
Point being, in order to enter Abraham’s bosom or heaven, one has to die, because (as of today) only spirits enter these locations. Since neither Enoch nor Elijah could enter heaven (Jesus had not yet died), and they were both in possession of their bodies (could not enter Abraham’s bosom), the question remains, where did they go?
First, let’s profile these two:
1Kings 17:1 “And Elijah the Tishbite, of the inhabitants of Gilead, said to Ahab, “As the LORD God of Israel lives, before whom I stand, there shall not be dew nor rain these years, except at my word.”
Jude 1:14 “Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints,”
Keep in mind – during the time of Enoch the Lord would not be coming with ten thousands of his saints. He would be coming with a Flood of water. What then, was Enoch talking about?
Moreover, God says of all humans:
Heb 9:27 “And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment”
We know these two men, Elijah and Enoch didn’t die, but we also know their time-frames weren’t bumping-up against the Rapture. God didn’t take them to judgment (they would have to die). So in order for God to be true to his words, and his law, they would have to show up in history somewhere else. This is a general conclusion, there could be others.
So did God transport these two men into the future? If so, they would have arrived at a point in history, a time-certain, just as if they had been plucked from the ground and dropped into the right place and time.
In the book of Revelation, we read:
Rev 11:3 “And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth.”
And what are these two famous for?
Rev 11:6 “These have power to shut heaven, so that no rain falls in the days of their prophecy; and they have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to strike the earth with all plagues, as often as they desire.”
The power to shut heaven was given to Elijah. Most agree one of these witnesses is Elijah.
The power of water into blood, and all plagues was demonstrated by Moses, but is this really Moses? From the above, it is appointed to man “once” to die. Moses has already died. Moreover, they are standing in Jerusalem, and Moses was denied entry to Jerusalem. In order for this to be Moses, he would have to be fully resurrected from dust. And then, he would die again, because both of these prophets are killed.
Rev 11:7-8 “When they finish their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them. And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.”
So Moses would physically die twice, in violation of the hard-and-fast rule that people only die once. (More detail on this with Lazarus and the daughter of Jairus in another essay)
What was Enoch’s testimony? The coming of the Lord with ten thousands of his saints? Isn’t that what we would expect these two witnesses to preach? Not just a few chapters later, the Lord actually arrives with ten thousands of his saints!
Rev 19:11,14 “Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war… And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses.”
All that’s a long way around to say, it’s clear Elijah and Moses were time-slipped to visit Jesus at the Transfiguration, and it’s discernible that Elijah and Enoch arrive on the Temple Mount as the two witnesses.
Apart from this, where do we derive these truths? From the book of Revelation, written by John, who was himself catapulted many millennia into the future and time-slipped over one thousand years (Rev 20:4). He watched an angel physically measure things (Rev 21:6), and claims he physically looked (Rev 15:5), and physically saw and heard these things (Rev 20:8).
Clearly John wasn’t immersed in some sort of transcendental vision. He was physically ported into another space and time, and was returned to the Isle of Patmos when it was all done.
So there we have examples of four individuals, the original time travelers (Elijah, Enoch, Moses and John), plus many more prophets who were shown prophetic visions. God “folding” time and space to them in prophetic revelations.
May we glean from all this, that time is a sort of fabric, and can be folded, stretched and the like. We cruise along the fabric at one speed. God can change the speed, or our location altogether. Either way, time travel is possible, but only God controls these laws.
For the Once Upon a Time Traveler series, I depict mega-scientists using powerful superconductors to gain access to these laws and affect their own time travel. They later learn the fabric of time has immutable rules. They can’t just go anywhere they want, nor can they get a “do-over”. Once it’s part of history, it stays put. Where would we derive such a rule? The book of Ecclesiastes has a dissertation on time in chapter 3:
Ecc 3:15 “That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.”
Think about how profound the above is: God requires that which is past – history will stay put. But that which has been is now, and that which is to be has already been. He’s simply saying that, to God’s perspective, time is something He created and he is present in every part of time, all at once.
I’ll deal with that part in another essay. But think about this: Let’s say I’m at a party and several movie stars are present. I call you, and you tell me you’re thirty minutes away. You hop in the car and get to the party, and sure enough, those movie stars are there and you have a great time. But when I told you about the party, it was still thirty minutes into your future (that’s how long it would take to get to me) even though I was already there, talking to you about it.
Contrast this to: Both of us are in a car on the way to the party, and I tell you that movie stars are supposed to be there (I don’t know, because I’m not there yet). And I tell you I was personally responsible for organizing the party, inviting guests and so forth. I’m telling you what I put together, what I expect to find when we get there. But I’m not actually there (yet).
People define God’s sovereignty in one of the two ways above. Either he is sovereign over all time, or only over the current time frame. Either he “knows” about the future, or he is “orchestrating” it.
The Once Upon A Time Traveler series follows the first model. God is always out in front of us. He can tell the prophets what’s going on in the future because he’s there. The prophets (and the world) haven’t yet arrived. (I deal with this in detail in an essay on foreknowledge).
To wrap it up – God has laws for time travel and has exhibited his own capacity to leverage those laws to provide prophecy to humans, as a demonstration that he is outside of time, because he is the Creator.